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Mythbusters, the Dog Training Edition: “Some Breeds Need a Firmer Hand”

Mythbusters, the Dog Training Edition: “Some Breeds Need a Firmer Hand”

Breed specific enthusiasts can have a narrow view on some aspects of their chosen breed. This is not limited to any one breed. I see it among many breed enthusiasts. Everyone wants to believe that their breed is more special than any other breed. So they say things like the above phrase to set their breed apart and in doing so, themselves as well. After all, they can handle this breed so they must be special too.

In truth, all dogs are special. There no need to make any one breed seem tougher than any other breed. To do so invites abuse of that breed in the name of training. This is unnecessary at best. It is a crime at worst.

Behavior is behavior. Modifying a behavior can be done with reward based methods regardless of the breed. Breed only matters in knowing where some behaviors MAY come from and in how to redirect them more effectively. Plenty of breeds were bred for a certain job. But that never guarantees that every member of that breed has that working instinct. It very much depends on the individual parents. But knowing what that job trait may be and how certain behaviors fit into such a trait are important considerations for behavior consultants. That doesn’t however, change the methodology that one should use to modify errant behaviors that are unwelcome. There are plenty of choices on how to implement reward based behavior modification.

No force is needed to handle these two Cane Corsos.

No force is needed to handle these two Cane Corsos.

In fact, using punitive methods on strong confident dogs can create a time bomb waiting to go off. At some point, said strong confident dog will get sick of being forced and choose to fight back. Is this the kind of relationship that you want to create with your dogs? I sure don’t. All of my confident dogs have flourished when I finally got a clue about how to inspire them effectively.

Status breeds can often the choice of some people who want to use the perceived status of their dog to elevate how they are viewed by the world at large. Being able to “control” such a “tough” dog makes them tough. So they use methods popularized by a certain TV “trainer” with little education in dog behavior. These old fashioned methods have proven to be detrimental to having a trust based relationship with one’s dog. They also often create more aggression and a defensive state of existing in the dogs in question.

Among the fallacies I have heard are that Pit Bulls have necks so strong that they can’t feel prong collars and their jaws lock so that you have to be forceful with them in order to prevent that. Of course this kind of false information creates an adversarial situation with a breed group that is already in a precarious position in the public eye right now. The truth is that this is one of the breed groups that is the softest with humans. They are often eager to please and take to reward based training very quickly. Thankfully most Pit Bull rescue and advocacy groups operate with modern methods these days, although sadly not all do. Do your research before supporting a Pit Bull rescue and choose the ones who choose to train with their brains. Without that reassurance, you can inadvertently support very old fashioned methods that rely on abuse and call it training.

Dobermans and Rottweilers are two more breeds where you often see a heavy slant towards the old fashioned methods among their fanciers. Progressive owners choose positive rewards-based methods because they work better, without a need for manhandling one’s dog. Merlin introduced me to the Doberman world and fortunately for him, I wound up on the path to reward-based training. I wish I could say the same for most Doberman fans.

Fortunately for Caucasian Ovcharkas, Kenzo’s breed, the original breeder in this country who wrote the book on the breed, was ahead of her time. Reward-based training and even capturing, is mentioned in her book on the breed. Unheard of that decade, this is a boon to the breed. This breed tends to be the picture that shows up on the internet if you google aggressive dogs. Large and powerful, yet perfectly easily trainable with reward based training, once again.

The same is true of all breeds. Behavior is behavior. Expecting to have to be forceful with your chosen breed sets up an adversarial relationship from the start. This causes defensive behavior on the part of the dog and resentful behavior on the part of the human. If you choose to see believe that you have to use a hammer, you will see everything as a nail. Build a relationship, not a battle. If you have a breed perceived as “tough”, feel free share your reward based training path in the spaces below.

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  1. Guardian Breeds August 4, 2014

    I like the read, and I had very much quite the similar view when it comes to dogs a few years ago.

    I am a firm believer of dog psychology, and I was quite sure that any dog was an easy victim for proper dog psychology and training that motivated the dog. This I believed because my experience with my own, and also countless other dogs – problem dogs whose owners came to me seeking help had taught me.

    When I bought a countryside property of my own, and got some more space around me I decided I wanted to try a breed that is notorious for it’s reputation. With staggering confidence in my own “dog whispering” capabilities I got myself a 2 month old Caucasian Ovtcharka (true eastern europe genepool). Already at the first meeting the little puppy melted my heart, however I quickly realized that this dog was not as any other dog I had previously handled.
    And I was used to Rotweilers, German Shepherds, Boer Boels and other guardian and guard dog breeds.

    This puppy I had received, had no prior human interaction and I got to start from absolute scratch with it.
    However from the first few minutes, it was a battle. The corrections I attempted to give him, to make sure he was calm and patient when exiting his kennel caused a fierce and malicious battle. A more stubborn and dominant little puppy, I had never even seen the resemblances of.

    This little puppy is 4 years today, and well… I would like to see someone raise a likeminded 2 month old puppy like that, with a pure reward based system.
    As much as I was a believer, I have to admit that I couldn’t do it with this dog.
    I have to use growling, showing teeth and in other fashions dominate the dog, to ensure I remain in control.

    Personally this is now the only breed I’ll ever have, the breed is absolutely amazing. But getting one, believing you can raise a dog-dog and dog-human polite dog without a high knowledge of dog psychology is a risk.
    I also believe that the first two months of the puppy’s life is absolutely massive, to ensure it gets used to human interaction and humans being the boss of it.

    So as a closing comment, I would recommend anyone who want to obtain a Caucasian Ovtcharka (or any very dominant breed), to be very selective when choosing breeders and to pick the right puppy for their needs. Don’t go for the most active, and most adventurous one, it’s likely to be the hardest one to contain and train…
    Remember, while most other dogs need training to become a fierce guardian – an Ovtcharka that is not kept in check will do this by it’s own merit… And if you do not keep control and leadership, it certainly will. And at this point, it will decide who it accepts and who it rejects as far as strangers go.
    Remember, in eastern europe dogs aren’t bred and kept as they are in central europe and in the U.S.
    And especially the Ovtcharka, it’s bred to be hostile and fierce towards strangers. And at most breeders, even the breeder himself can’t calm the dog in the presence of a strange animal or person.

    I am also not recommending people to harm or hurt their dogs, but some dogs, not necessarily breeds need a firmer hand. Believing anything else than that is being naive. I know for certain that even at 2 months old, it’s late to start human interaction with an ovtcharka puppy.

    Regards,
    Proud and loving Ovtcharka owner!

  2. Debby August 5, 2014

    The author responds:

    Although what a Caucasian considers a reward is different than many other breeds, I strongly disagree with your statement. I have a Caucasian or I would not have mentioned the breed. I have worked with many Caucasians as well as Central Asian shepherd, and other European livestock guardian breeds. They all can be trained with reward based methods. But you have to find the motivation. I have never growled at my dog. Leadership is important with all dogs. But leadership has nothing to do with dominance. Leader ship is like a parent who provides proper structure and guidelines.the breeder that I mentioned in this article lives in Ohio with double-digit numbers of Caucasians. She uses reward based methods only.

  3. Harry April 21, 2016

    Great read.

  4. Kathy Boone September 30, 2019

    Your article is the most common sense one I have read. I am 64 years old and have had dogs all my life. I am not a dog trainer by any means. I have learned by my mistakes and from watching and have found that reward and praise goes the distance with training. The more love you show your dog, the more they will do all they can to protect you, watch over you, comfort you, and listen to you.
    I liked what you said about Pit Bulls too. They always get a bad rap.So has the Anatolian, German Shepherd, Chow and Doberman Pinscher.
    I have a pit bull/shepherd mix, an Anatolian, a chow mix and a little black dog who we think is a spitz mix. Each one is friendly and loving yet protective. My dogs aren’t tough until they need to be. I know they would die to protect me out of Love, not because I made them mean. I am kind and loving towards them. Unlike humans, they appreciate every act of kindness you give them. Because of that reason, they want to please me.
    Thank you for writing this and putting this out on the internet. This needs to be read by all.
    God Bless,
    Kathy Boone
    Kearneysville, WV

  5. Debby McMullen October 8, 2019

    Thank you so much!

  6. Adil Hassan April 2, 2024

    This insightful piece challenges breed stereotypes and emphasizes the importance of positive, reward-based training for all dogs. By debunking myths and highlighting the effectiveness of gentle methods, it promotes a healthier relationship between humans and their canine companions.

    The author’s advocacy for understanding individual behavior rather than relying on breed generalizations is both refreshing and empowering. Encouraging readers to share their experiences with reward-based training fosters a supportive community dedicated to compassionate dog care.

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